I was looking for a thread about male chauvinism because that's a huge trigger for me. I hear people saying sexist remarks and it registers with my brain that they think rape is sometimes deserved. Anyway. I appreciate this quote by Klmisc from http://www.mysexabuse.com/threads/perpetuating.684/ Maybe I normalized the abusers. No. In my childhood, my abusers were normalized to me. I was told repeatedly, that I was overreacting when they made fun of me in front of my family. They made sexual innuendos and comments on my body, on my facial expressions, everything... Bully made sex out of everything. And, my family told me I was overreacting when it upset me. It frightened me, and it angered me. I always tried to find a way to distinguish Bully from others, but was always told that he is just a boy. His mother even said "Boys will be boys". How can I sort this out? Where is the line, and why is it so hard to define? I also am very sexist, in that I devalue myself as a woman all the time. I'm trying to sort out... my value. I think this is a huge issue in my life. I have a teenage boy and a preteen daughter and I don't want to perpetuate this sexist belief system... this abuse cycle. Does anyone have any thoughts on this kind of thing? Where do you draw the line with this stuff in your own home? How do you raise a boy to respect women? How do you convince your husband that telling his son not to say something because it will upset mom, instead of giving him a good reason why he shouldn't say something, is teaching him that mom is irrational about it and otherwise it's okay to say? Am I making any sense? And, is anyone interested in having a conversation about this issue?